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Post by crow on Dec 15, 2019 2:14:27 GMT 10
over the hill players must love the Eels, they get another year or 2 in the game on good money, as nobody else wants them, ll thee other clubs are smart enough to know it is past there time.
Maybe Gutherson will not be in the janitors corner like you think. When the Eels crash and burn next season the janitor will probably not have any support. The grave digger can go to town on him with zero support coming from any players.
The janitor was a fool not to aim at getting Flanagan, it would have been a walk in the park for the janitor then. Let Flanagan do all the work, the janitor sits around and does nothing, they win a premiership and the janitor gets a huge new contract.
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Post by Electric Eel on Dec 15, 2019 13:15:04 GMT 10
over the hill players must love the Eels, they get another year or 2 in the game on good money, as nobody else wants them, ll thee other clubs are smart enough to know it is past there time. Maybe Gutherson will not be in the janitors corner like you think. When the Eels crash and burn next season the janitor will probably not have any support. The grave digger can go to town on him with zero support coming from any players. The janitor was a fool not to aim at getting Flanagan, it would have been a walk in the park for the janitor then. Let Flanagan do all the work, the janitor sits around and does nothing, they win a premiership and the janitor gets a huge new contract. Eels feel back into those dark days a decade ago, signing over the hill players. Remember in 2011 - Carl Webb, Paul Whatuira, Reni Maitua, Chis Hicks and Chris Walker. And that was two year after a grand final appearance. Following year won the wooden spoon, which was a terrible way to send off Hindmarsh and Burt. If the Eels fail in 2020, only a fool would back this toilet flusher. Actually, the players right now should be doubting their beloved coach after failing miserably against the Storm after such a great performance against the Broncos. Flanagan definitely should be coach and the Janitor assistant coach. The toilet flusher was never going to agree to Flanagan being assistant because he would have been shown up for what he really is. The players would have drifted over to Flanagan.
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Post by crow on Dec 16, 2019 0:43:47 GMT 10
Like Phil Gould said, it is easier to get from last to 5th than it is from 5th to winning the holy grail. Toilet flushing is not a great credential to be a coach of an NRL team.
2011 would have to go down as the worst recruitment drive in the history of professional sports. They were all good players at one time but well past it when the Eels struck. They all got some extra football life due to the Eels.
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Post by Electric Eel on Dec 16, 2019 19:39:16 GMT 10
Like Phil Gould said, it is easier to get from last to 5th than it is from 5th to winning the holy grail. Toilet flushing is not a great credential to be a coach of an NRL team. 2011 would have to go down as the worst recruitment drive in the history of professional sports. They were all good players at one time but well past it when the Eels struck. They all got some extra football life due to the Eels. Phil Gould has won premierships as a coach and therefore knows what it takes. The great coach is saying that the toilet flusher has a long way to go, unlike Sterlo who is in love with the Janitor, and for all the wrong reasons. Throwing a lifeline to washed up hobbo's should be banned from the club. If the Eels recruitment scouts try to pull that stunt, they should be instantly dismissed.
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Post by crow on Dec 17, 2019 3:14:47 GMT 10
Eels talent scouts have been poor for many years, the last time they were good Noel Cleal was having an affair with Jamie Lyon.
Sterlo is a smart guy but I guess you can pull the wool over his eyes, or is it that he wants to see success of the Eels so bad that he is blinded by the truth???
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Post by Electric Eel on Dec 17, 2019 12:16:52 GMT 10
Eels talent scouts have been poor for many years, the last time they were good Noel Cleal was having an affair with Jamie Lyon. Sterlo is a smart guy but I guess you can pull the wool over his eyes, or is it that he wants to see success of the Eels so bad that he is blinded by the truth??? LOL Noel Cleal and Jamie Lyon affair. Good players in their day, but Lyon will go down as the player who stabbed us in the back and then went on to win premierships with the enemy. He would have been an awesome captain for the Eels until he retired. Sterlo was a legendary player and is a decent commentator, but would fail at coaching and / or administration duties. Can't be good at everything, I guess.
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Post by crow on Dec 17, 2019 13:28:02 GMT 10
Lyon was a total asshole, he will probably go down as the most hated Eels player ever. He acted like a baby girl when he left.
Have to agree with you on Sterlo, or could it be that with his loss of hair came a loss of football smarts???
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Post by Electric Eel on Dec 17, 2019 20:10:12 GMT 10
Lyon was a total asshole, he will probably go down as the most hated Eels player ever. He acted like a baby girl when he left. Have to agree with you on Sterlo, or could it be that with his loss of hair came a loss of football smarts??? Definitely the Eels most hated player. I can't think of any other player who could be more hated? I remember when Parra signed Mark Bugden in 1989, I didn't like him, because he scored a try against Parra in the 1984 grand final, but that's not the same as a betrayal. Sterlo will never have any serious involvement with the club again. That all came to an end in 1992. He never liked the bald jokes, I saw Andrew Johns make a joke a few years back and Sterlo was annoyed.
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Post by crow on Dec 18, 2019 1:39:00 GMT 10
I didnt like Mark Bugden either. Betrayal is a lot worse. I wonder if Lyon has any regrets? He did win 2 GF with the evil empire, and would not have won anything with the Eels, but he sure went about things the wrong way.
Fitzgerald sure went about alienating all the superstars of the 80's. I have never seen a club treat there superstars with such distain.
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Post by Electric Eel on Dec 18, 2019 10:55:50 GMT 10
I didnt like Mark Bugden either. Betrayal is a lot worse. I wonder if Lyon has any regrets? He did win 2 GF with the evil empire, and would not have won anything with the Eels, but he sure went about things the wrong way. Fitzgerald sure went about alienating all the superstars of the 80's. I have never seen a club treat there superstars with such distain. Found an article from 2007 about Lyon - It's a grudge match three years in the making, but someone seems to have forgotten to tell Parramatta they owe Jamie Lyon for walking out on the NRL club. Lyon will play against his former teammates for the first time when Manly host the Eels at Brookvale on Friday night, the Test centre sure to cop plenty from the Parramatta faithful that make the trip out to Sydney's northern peninsula. But his former Parramatta teammates deny they have revenge on their minds, despite Lyon quitting the club without so much as a goodbye one game into the 2004 season.
"I couldn't care less actually," Eels forward Nathan Hindmarsh said of going up against Lyon. "We just want to win.
"That thing with 'Killer' happened years and years ago and I was over that after about two days. "I couldn't care less that he up and left, I've got my own backyard to worry about." Asked if he was hurt by Lyon leaving to join the Sea Eagles via stints with NSW country side Wee Waa and English club St Helens, Hindmarsh said: "Hurt? Was that a serious question? No, I wasn't hurt." Lyon admitted he regretted the circumstances in which he parted company with the Eels, when he claimed he was sick of Sydney life and wanted to return to his hometown of Wee Waa. There were claims of a breakdown in his relationship with then Parramatta coach Brian Smith - something both parties have since denied - but Lyon admits he did feel for his teammates.
"I let them down a bit and they might have been a bit short staffed at the time," Lyon said. "There's not much I can really do about it now, just move on. "I would say there would have been (a few damaged friendships), I would say a few boys would have been dirty." But Eels captain Nathan Cayless, one of five players still at the club from Lyon's time there, said he held no animosity to his former teammate. "You can't really hold grudges - you grow up bitter and old and it's not a very good way to live," Cayless said.
"At the time it was a bit strange but now it's water under the bridge ... there's a lot of history between the two clubs and this probably adds a little bit more as well. "I was pretty confused as to why he left, I wasn't angry. "Being the captain of the team you want to make sure that your players are happy and that all of your players want to play together." As to whether he would go in search of a big hit on the NSW Origin hopeful, Cayless offered: "He's got too much good footwork, he's fast - I won't be able to catch him. "He's going to be out there doing his job and we're going to be out there doing ours.
"You get carried away thinking about that sort of stuff. We'll go a long way towards losing the game before we start playing it."
Lyon has been named in the centres by Manly coach Des Hasler despite playing most of Sunday's match against Canberra at five-eighth, with Michael Monaghan retained in the No.6 jumper.Appears Lyon had some regret, if you believe what he said. Fitzgerald taken from Wikipedia - As a vigorous opponent of Super League, Fitzgerald has become known for a number of prominent opinions about other football clubs including: * criticising the joint merger between the Western Suburbs Magpies and the Balmain Tigers into the Wests Tigers in 2000 * trying to get a Super 12 rugby union club established in western Sydney * declaring that rugby league had no place in Melbourne after the Storm's record-breaking 2007 season * refusing to honour Ray Price for his services to the EelsThe last point is interesting.
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Post by crow on Dec 19, 2019 4:07:54 GMT 10
Lyon always played great against the Eels, a further kick in the mouth from an asshole.
Fitzgerald hated anyone that served the club on the football field better than him. He was a tyrant.
Funny thing is that the Eels have had some of the biggest assholes associated with them, not necessarily thugs, as we never had any of them, but people with bad morals. How could anyone associated with the Eels, refuse to honor Ray Price, he was blue and gold, but hated Fitzgerald and thought he was a cancer on the club. The club seriously has not really improved since those lousy days of the emperor.
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Post by Electric Eel on Dec 19, 2019 14:13:10 GMT 10
Lyon always played great against the Eels, a further kick in the mouth from an asshole. Fitzgerald hated anyone that served the club on the football field better than him. He was a tyrant. Funny thing is that the Eels have had some of the biggest assholes associated with them, not necessarily thugs, as we never had any of them, but people with bad morals. How could anyone associated with the Eels, refuse to honor Ray Price, he was blue and gold, but hated Fitzgerald and thought he was a cancer on the club. The club seriously has not really improved since those lousy days of the emperor. Lyon will always be scum no matter what his excuse were at the time. Leaving your teammates like that, he was a coward!! Ray Price is Parramatta!! Haven't seen a player since Price that has given so much on the field. He was a true warrior. Fitzgerald was just a nasty piece of work. He should have been punted from the club a lot sooner.
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Post by crow on Dec 20, 2019 2:56:47 GMT 10
I couldnt agree more with you, but he kept getting voted in by the stupid members, blame them. It sounds a bit like Trump, to many fools vote and vote in fools.
Ray Price should have been called Mr 110% because that is how he played every week with 110% effort on the field. For the CEO to snub him like he did just goes to show the type of person he was.
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Post by crow on Dec 20, 2019 9:18:31 GMT 10
Watmough podcast (The one where he called Cherry-Evans a ****wit). He talks about signing for Parramatta and said at the time his body was gone, he wasn't interested in playing further and after Manly shafted him he just wanted to retire until Brad Arthur gave him a call and changed his mind.
He then went on to say he was laughing all the way to the bank with what Parramatta had offered him. He even admitted he hated going out to Parramatta for training and everything.
It just summed up our recruitment back then.
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Post by Electric Eel on Dec 20, 2019 10:03:52 GMT 10
Watmough podcast (The one where he called Cherry-Evans a ****wit). He talks about signing for Parramatta and said at the time his body was gone, he wasn't interested in playing further and after Manly shafted him he just wanted to retire until Brad Arthur gave him a call and changed his mind. He then went on to say he was laughing all the way to the bank with what Parramatta had offered him. He even admitted he hated going out to Parramatta for training and everything. It just summed up our recruitment back then. Ray Price also summed up Brian Smith correctly. He said in Smith's first year coaching in 1997, the Eels will not win a premiership with BS as coach and that's exactly what happened. Just goes to show how professional and successful Manly were during those years with Watmough. Disputes and hatred's between players, but they still win premierships. Eels got the injury prone over the hill dud, while Manly got one of the best forwards in the game at that time.
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