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Post by Electric Eel on Sept 21, 2019 22:16:15 GMT 10
Disappointing first half. Everything went wrong from penalties, bounce of the ball, Storm spot on kicking game. Game was over at halftime. Moving forward, Parra need to improve playing away from home, how to play when things don't go their way during the game and finally improve their defence.
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Post by crow on Sept 22, 2019 2:53:29 GMT 10
fair enough on the way the 5 team finals was run. I think they did it wrong, personally. There is no advantage being ranked 2 over 5 in that setup.
This is what happens when you have a quality coach against a quality janitor. What a disgrace. I think the GF will be the Raiders against the Storm. Shame it will not be the 2 best teams there. The Storm were completely unbeatable in that game. It will be a great dog fight against the Roosters.
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Post by Electric Eel on Sept 22, 2019 12:39:13 GMT 10
fair enough on the way the 5 team finals was run. I think they did it wrong, personally. There is no advantage being ranked 2 over 5 in that setup. This is what happens when you have a quality coach against a quality janitor. What a disgrace. I think the GF will be the Raiders against the Storm. Shame it will not be the 2 best teams there. The Storm were completely unbeatable in that game. It will be a great dog fight against the Roosters. If team 2 won in the first week of the finals, the following week they would play team 1 for a place in the Grand Final. I think back then, team 5 most of the time would be gone after the first week, because the difference in quality between team 2 and team 5 was a lot. Yep, the Janitor struggled to fix the soft defence and struggling away from home. Like Phil Gould said last night during the game, "you can't take Bankwest everywhere you go". The Storm's kicking game in general play was dead on. Cameron Smith's kick from 40 metres out resulting in a line drop-out. You can tell the Storm do so much training during the week to almost perfection. |
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Post by crow on Sept 23, 2019 3:10:43 GMT 10
The Janitor should just stick to cleaning toilets, he was badly overshadowed by a quality coach. 5 years coaching the Eels and he has never achieved an 80 min team, or been able to get strong hard defense. Doesn't that say something to the front office???
I honestly believe the Eels have the best backline in the NRL, but if there is zero go foward by the forwards then the backline cant perform to its peak. All the forwards were totally outclassed by the Storm. It was the result in the playoffs that both you and me were saying would happen most of the season. Goes to show how poor the Broncos were this year.
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Post by Electric Eel on Sept 23, 2019 10:37:13 GMT 10
The Janitor should just stick to cleaning toilets, he was badly overshadowed by a quality coach. 5 years coaching the Eels and he has never achieved an 80 min team, or been able to get strong hard defense. Doesn't that say something to the front office??? I honestly believe the Eels have the best backline in the NRL, but if there is zero go foward by the forwards then the backline cant perform to its peak. All the forwards were totally outclassed by the Storm. It was the result in the playoffs that both you and me were saying would happen most of the season. Goes to show how poor the Broncos were this year. When you listen to Wayne Bennett, Craig Bellamy and Des Hasler after the game, they sound like they know what they are talking about and they obviously lift their teams to an 80 minute performance. BA is the opposite, his halftime speech can ruin the Eels for the remainder of the game. And whoever is the defensive coach should be sacked!! Those Storm tries except from kicks were too easy. Broncos should not have been playing finals football. Negative points differential, lost more games than won and no halves. Don't know why people are surprised they got belted by Parra. Will next year be the same for Parra? BA will have to wait for Cameron Smith to retire and the Roosters to be riddled with injury. He won't beat Storm and Roosters at their best. |
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Post by crow on Sept 23, 2019 13:56:31 GMT 10
I would hope that by midway through next season BA gets fired, otherwise the Eels will be at best just making up the numbers for the top 8. BA has not really improved that team in 5 years, why would it change much next year? Under BA the Eels cant compete against the Storm or Roosters. Janitors should stick to janitoring. Stay away from the NRL.
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Post by crow on Sept 23, 2019 14:02:26 GMT 10
Further, David Kidwell is defensive coach and quite frankly has been lousy. Hope we get someone better next year.
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Post by Electric Eel on Sept 23, 2019 15:22:08 GMT 10
Further, David Kidwell is defensive coach and quite frankly has been lousy. Hope we get someone better next year. I would definitely sack BA. 5 years and no GF appearance. Coaching is a tough gig, and if you haven't produced a Premiership which is what it's all about, you have to go. Only the best coaches can go for 5 years with no title, because they have already won and may win again. David Kidwell is terrible then. He must of produced the defensive play - rush out of the line and smash the player, before they pass, which we've seen from Blake, Jennings and Sivo. But that's about it. |
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Post by crow on Sept 24, 2019 0:29:43 GMT 10
I have no idea why they would have given BA the gig for 2 more years. The front office must be clueless. You can say that the Eels improved from 2018 to 2019, but in reality over 5 years that have not really improved. I dont know why the front office cant see the big picture. They may not have been there at the beginning of BA's tenure, but just look back at the record. With the best backline in the NRL they get smashed by the Storm in a playoff game, what is wrong? Answer, the coach is an awesome janitor, what they need is a coach not a janitor.
Kidwell has always been lousy. He coached the NZ team one year and they were terrible. Why would they stick with a guy with no success, and has never been able to tighten up the defense, which sucks.
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Post by crow on Sept 24, 2019 0:41:13 GMT 10
Fittler expressed concern that Eels players could fool themselves into thinking they'd already done the hard part in returning themselves as an NRL contender. He was also unimpressed with their 32-0 finals exit against Melbourne.
"Gus (Gould) made a point about coming from 16th to sixth is a lot easier than going from sixth to first," Fittler said on the Sunday Footy Wrap.
"A lot of players will see that, the talk about coming from 16th to (fifth) as a positive and will sit back and go, 'Yeah, you know what, we had a great season'.
Eels wingers Blake Ferguson and Maika Sivo have had huge seasons, but a tough finish in Melbourne. (Getty)
"But they went down to Melbourne and sort of got a bit embarrassed. There was some really poor footy in amongst it; shoulder charges, poor kicking. For that time of year, it was a petty game.
"I saw that as a failure, that last game. They had a great second half, so that gives you a bit of an indication of what they can do.
"I just feel it's a tough one. It's not as easy as saying, 'Well, they've gone from 16th to (fifth), to say they're going to improve, because the mentality of a lot of the players is, 'That was a pretty good year, that was successful'.
"All of a sudden, their managers will start telling them they're going better, and we'll just listen to a bit of contract talk next year because they've come off a good season.
"It's a really sensitive time and unless they're willing to work really hard, put that season as a failure and a learning year and work hard, then they're a good chance of falling back."
Eels coach Brad Arthur. (Getty)
Sterling responded that branding the season a failure would be too harsh.
"I can't call it a failure. I think you're not giving enough credit for going from the bottom into playing finals football," he told Fittler.
Fittler retorted: "Half the teams play in the semis though."
Sterling: "I understand that, but they ended up top six and yes, the last game was disappointing, no doubt about that.
"But I have faith that the man in charge (coach Brad Arthur) knows what he's doing. I think that when a football team becomes a representation of the man in charge, that's a really good sign.
"You have a look at the successful teams. Trent Robinson, you can see the type of team he has (at the Roosters) and I think it's an extension of him. I think if Parramatta continue to become an extension of Brad Arthur, they will (be successful).
"I agree with Freddy in regards to the off-season, it's a very, very important one. But I think they learnt a lot this year. In key positions, there's not a lot of experience; this year will help with what they got under their belts.
"I can't use the word 'failure' this year. No, they didn't win it and yes, they were poor the last game. But they made dramatic improvements on and off the field in a lot of areas, so they're going in the right direction and that's important for a club."
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Post by Electric Eel on Sept 24, 2019 19:40:27 GMT 10
I have no idea why they would have given BA the gig for 2 more years. The front office must be clueless. You can say that the Eels improved from 2018 to 2019, but in reality over 5 years that have not really improved. I dont know why the front office cant see the big picture. They may not have been there at the beginning of BA's tenure, but just look back at the record. With the best backline in the NRL they get smashed by the Storm in a playoff game, what is wrong? Answer, the coach is an awesome janitor, what they need is a coach not a janitor. Kidwell has always been lousy. He coached the NZ team one year and they were terrible. Why would they stick with a guy with no success, and has never been able to tighten up the defense, which sucks. 8 losses and 5 wins for away games including finals this year. 2 of those wins were at ANZ Stadium (Home Ground before Bankwest) and Bankwest Stadium against Bulldogs and Wests Tigers. The other 3 wins against Panthers, Dragons and Titans. 6 out of those 8 losses were against top 8 teams. So basically, BA is guaranteed a lose away from home against decent opposition. How does he keep his job? I don't agree with Sterlo. 5th on the ladder is an improvement than 16th the year before, but their almost perfect home ground record gave us a false sense of security. I thought they were a chance of beating the Storm in Melbourne, but it was an away game. |
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Post by crow on Sept 25, 2019 3:29:31 GMT 10
I dont agree with Sterlo either. Gould said it right, it is easier to go from last to 5th than it is from 5th to 1st. Sterlo seems to think that BA is a good coach, I cant understand that?
Our away record is a disgrace for a team to make the playoffs. I dont see us getting that much improvement from a janitor either. Our 2 loses at Bankwest were against trashy teams as well. They didnt play well, we just played worse.
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Post by Electric Eel on Sept 25, 2019 18:26:04 GMT 10
I dont agree with Sterlo either. Gould said it right, it is easier to go from last to 5th than it is from 5th to 1st. Sterlo seems to think that BA is a good coach, I cant understand that? Our away record is a disgrace for a team to make the playoffs. I dont see us getting that much improvement from a janitor either. Our 2 loses at Bankwest were against trashy teams as well. They didnt play well, we just played worse. Sterlo obviously has not picked apart the Eels season. The list is a concern, even though they played finals football. 1. Smashed by the Storm 64-10 on a neutral ground. 2. Poor away record. 3. 2nd worst defence out of top 8 teams. Sterlo must be just looking at the Bankwest games. And if it wasn't for the novelty of a new stadium, Eels would have missed the 8. What will the Janitor do differently next year? Plead with the NRL to play all games including the finals at Bankwest. There is room for so much improvement. |
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Post by crow on Sept 26, 2019 0:20:23 GMT 10
in all reality the Eels just made up the numbers for the playoffs. Two teams are head and shoulders above everyone else.
Since Flanagan is allowed to be an assistant coach, I hope the Eels sign him. He has a good football brain and can get more out of the team. There will never be any improvement with the janitor. Flanagan can only be an assistant coach for 2 years and then after that fire the janitor and make him head coach. That could work out well. Do the Eels have the intelligence to do that, I dont think so.
I am a bit amazed at Sterlos lack of knowledge of the Eels. I thought he was smarter.
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Post by crow on Sept 26, 2019 3:07:27 GMT 10
Further, I just watched the 1983 GF. Great result. Ray Warren is a much better commentator now than he was then.
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